World War III - BBC2

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World War III - BBC2

Postby Levied Troop » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:44 pm

This World ran a simulation of British strategic thinking in the event of Russian border incursions in Latvia. Anyone see it?

Well worth a look on I-Player:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... e-war-room

Some very predictable reactions from some of the players - Pauling Neville-Jones really is an evil little shit, Lord West exemplifies the problems with the military always preparing for the last war, the Lib Dem peer was hilarious - but the final conclusion was fascinating.
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Re: World War III - BBC2

Postby --- » Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:04 pm

Thanks for heads up - well worth a watch.

Was rather worried that they considered what The Sun and The Daily Fail's headlines would be formed part of the decision making.....
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Re: World War III - BBC2

Postby Arthurdent » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:11 pm

Recorded it so will have a look at some point.
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Re: World War III - BBC2

Postby kawasaki » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:59 pm

Sleepwalking to war indeed.

I'd like to think that the buggers making the real decisions in the real world would give more thought to their actions than the chimps in the programme.

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Re: World War III - BBC2

Postby Levied Troop » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:02 pm

Unfortunately 10 years ago they were the people who might have been faced with those decisions.

The 'game' was run over several hours as you might imagine and editing down to one hour will have removed some nuance of thinking and informational input - but much of the thinking there was very depressing.

It did raise one new aspect of warfare briefly but didn't follow through on the possibilities. I doubt game events moved too fast to act upon it so it might have been intriguing to explore.

For me, Sir Tony Brenton (formerly our man in Moscow) came out as the most intelligent and human individual there - asked the right questions and his final decision was certainly grounded in real experience.
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Re: World War III - BBC2

Postby Bronshtein » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:42 pm

Finally got round to watching the download.
Not surprising they fucked up the final decision - as General Ripper points out in Dr Strangelove, politicians
'...have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought.'
The whole point of deterrence is to make your enemy think you will go totally tonto at the appropriate moment.
Making a TV programme suggesting you are human after all just encourages the other guy to think you'll blink.
Unsurprisingly the army blinked as well - another reason why they didn't get the deterrent, useless gits.

As for the likely train of events - too much Hollywood and not enough JIC.
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