State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Lem23 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:10 pm

Mr Moonshine wrote:
Personally, I'd suggest going to the source documents rather than getting the spin from some dodgy ideologically partisan website.



a) Snopes isn't partisan.

b) The source is wikileaks. Who make shit up.

c) Wikileaks' source is "unnamed source at the state department".

So how exactly do we go to the source? Or is taking Assange's word for it as good as we're going to get in that regard?

And if the answer to that is "look, there's a piece of paper with some typing on it that says it's from the state department!" then I'd like to introduce exhibit B, a back of an envelope with "Trump said he wants to sell the US to China while he was eating kittens for breakfast." Which must make that true, eh?
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Mr Moonshine » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:24 pm

a) Snopes isn't partisan.

Really? That's pretty naive.

b) The source is wikileaks. Who make shit up.

Really? Any reason to claim that? They've released some pretty excellent stuff in the past, a lot of which has since been verified.

c) Wikileaks' source is "unnamed source at the state department".
True. It has to be unnamed though, for the safety of that person, that's how a lot of whistleblowing is done. I just wonder why you would automatically doubt Assange and wikleaks when a) they've been very reliable so far and b) Clinton has been proven to be a murderous bitch time and time again, over multiple decades.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Mr Moonshine » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:29 pm

And yes, I've already made my mind up about her. I just like making strangers jump through hoops on the internet, as it gives me a little chubby.

Moonshine for the win!
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:49 pm

All the Candidate's Men
Of course, at the center of this web is Trump himself, a man of unrestrained appetites and gratuitous cruelty. The men surrounding him merely reflect the varied facets of his own character. To quiet his unsoothable insecurities, Trump goes to pathetic extremes to surround himself with pretty women. It's remarkable how ugly Trump's men are.

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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby zippy der nar » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:27 pm

I'm amused, condi. Got a link for this? I'd enjoy more of it.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby General Apathy » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:04 pm

Perhaps of interest

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/10/04/clinton-foundation/

GUCCIFER 2.0 HACKED CLINTON FOUNDATION
...all this from someone who is neither apathetic nor a general
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby kyotebue2 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:50 pm

Try FiveThirtyEight for US polls and economic news.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby kyotebue2 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:09 am

I guess fair is fair I look at your links JJ but mine are chopped liver.....
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby zippy der nar » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:35 am

Thanks for that link JJ. The snippets I read were fascinating...but I decided not to download any files or install any tools from the site. I just had a feeling. I presume if Guccifer really has anything, he'll be dumping it. What could be in that 'Pay to Play' folder?
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby rebelyell2006 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:07 am

zippy der nar wrote:Thanks for that link JJ. The snippets I read were fascinating...but I decided not to download any files or install any tools from the site. I just had a feeling. I presume if Guccifer really has anything, he'll be dumping it. What could be in that 'Pay to Play' folder?


Viruses, most likely.
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