State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

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Postby Ssanemax » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:10 pm

Bronshtein wrote:failed to get a woman elected 4 years ago. Safety first. Though that may be what loses it.


She was widely loathed. why do it? 'everyone HATES her - this will be easy!'

Bronshtein wrote:I'm wondering how many floating/middle ground voters are looking at the Democrat VP and trying to weigh up if Biden will go the distance and deciding to Vote Trump in any case because they are inherently Racist or Misogynistic


So sad. The World could really do with at least one major leader who isn't a fucking Loony-Tunes Autocrat. The chance is there, but the Democrats seem determined to go 'It's His TURN to run for President' regardless of his failings.

if Trump wins, it will be through no fault of his own, that's for certain.
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Postby Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:00 pm

kyotebue2 wrote:My take on the debate Wallace needed a kill switch for Trump's mic. What a shit show that was.

He used it, but it didn't stop Orange Julius...
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:13 pm

Ssanemax wrote:
Bronshtein wrote:failed to get a woman elected 4 years ago. Safety first. Though that may be what loses it.


She was widely loathed. why do it? 'everyone HATES her - this will be easy!'

As I said, she didn't put in the effort and exclaiming "my time is now!"

Also, had her own Romney's 47% moment, twice...

Let's not forget Comey's report...
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Bronshtein wrote:I'm wondering how many floating/middle ground voters are looking at the Democrat VP and trying to weigh up if Biden will go the distance and deciding to Vote Trump in any case because they are inherently Racist or Misogynistic


So sad. The World could really do with at least one major leader who isn't a fucking Loony-Tunes Autocrat. The chance is there, but the Democrats seem determined to go 'It's His TURN to run for President' regardless of his failings.

Blame the voters in the primaries...

The Bernie Bros preferred their angry rallies over voting and they're so butthurt, they won't vote for Biden. All the others weren't as charismatic or lacked something, so Biden won through attrition.
Ssanemax wrote:if Trump wins, it will be through no fault of his own, that's for certain.

It's why he's resorting to underhanded tactics...
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Postby Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:20 pm

Y'all think the "debate" was confusing, check out the brouhaha over Question 1 in Massachusetts...
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Ssanemax » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:23 pm

Il Segaiolo Pedantesco wrote:Blame the voters in the primaries...


ah yes, the old Blame the Voters ploy. Nothing wrong with us as a Political Party, no it's those dumb voters again.

If your members keep selecting fuckwits then maybe you should look at fixing the way your representatives are selected?
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:39 pm

Ssanemax wrote:
Il Segaiolo Pedantesco wrote:Blame the voters in the primaries...


ah yes, the old Blame the Voters ploy. Nothing wrong with us as a Political Party, no it's those dumb voters again.

If your members keep selecting fuckwits then maybe you should look at fixing the way your representatives are selected?


How's it working out for you in Blighty? :wry:
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Postby Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:42 pm

And the Keyboard crowd go wild: The Most Tantalizing One-Word Mystery of the Presidential Debate: At least if you’re Muslim, or a right-wing blogger.

The moderator, Fox News’ Chris Wallace, had cornered Donald Trump, forcing him to answer for what the New York Times found in his tax returns. Trump lied about how much he paid in federal taxes for 2016 and 2017, and said he’ll release his taxes eventually.

Biden and Trump were talking at the same time, and then it sounded like Biden said: “When? Inshallah?”

Arabic Twitter lit up immediately. Enough of us tilted our heads, unsure if we heard him say one of our most common phrases. Nobody could say for sure that he said it, but they wanted to believe.

If he did say it, he used it perfectly. Inshallah is an Arabic phrase that means “God willing.” A Muslim would say this as often as a typical white American might say “I hope,” but Arab Christians are known to use it too. If you grew up Muslim, Arabic speaking or not, you’d know it best as the thing your parents say like a gentle-sneaky no. You’d ask your parents to buy you a skateboard or a guitar, and not taking you seriously, they’d say Inshallah. They’re telling you eventually or, in most cases, never. It’s amorphous in this way, and really changes in meaning the way you say it. I’d say it fits pretty well in Biden’s purported use.

Could Biden have said something else? Yes. I saw multiple possibilities from naysayers. Did it seem likely he said something else? Maybe. But Muslims on Twitter chose to believe it because it was funny to. He tacked it on to the end of his dig at Trump the same way my parents would if I asked about that guitar: “When? Inshallah?”

Far-right media also seems to have believed it too. Breitbart immediately blogged Biden’s supposed turn of phrase, quoting one writer saying there’s no reason to “fear” the term. The top comment on the site’s post when I checked it said Biden was “pandering to Islam.” I wish.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby kyotebue2 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:55 pm

Biden raised 4 Millon in the hour after the debate.
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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Postby Hermit » Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:44 pm

kyotebue2 wrote:My take on the debate Wallace needed a kill switch for Trump's mic. What a shit show that was.


An understatement there. I've been watching the highlights of it and felt sorry for the ones who watched it all. Biden's going to have to figure out a better way to deal with a mouthy, spoilt, attention-seeking bullshitter like Trump in the next debate he has with him. It's not as if he didn't know what Trump was like.
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