The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:51 pm

BillSucksBoys wrote:
Condottiero wrote:It's not complete bollocks...

How many wars are determined by low level actions?

Give me a battle in which US armed forces were defeated by NVA and/or Viet Cong.

Interview with General Frederick C. Weyand About the American Troops Who Fought in the Vietnam War

The Genius of North Vietnam's War Strategy

Barack Obama says U.S. never lost a major battle in Vietnam


give it up Condi. both sides in this argument are atthe point where if one of them says 'vietnam is a country in south east asia' the other side will reply 'that's because of betrayal by the politicians at home' to which the first will reply 'baby killer'

It's an argument that no longer has any relation to what people are saying, or reality - just what the other side thinks of them for being on that side.

You're right...

I like how ochoin is blissfully ignorant of the failures of the British educational system and the parochial mentality of some of the inhabitants - society. An entitled moron was elected over here, while the Brits voted in a supposedly non-binding referendum over abstract concepts of regaining sovereignty!
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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby Derek H » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:01 pm

Condottiero wrote:
BillSucksBoys wrote:
give it up Condi. both sides in this argument are atthe point where if one of them says 'vietnam is a country in south east asia' the other side will reply 'that's because of betrayal by the politicians at home' to which the first will reply 'baby killer'

It's an argument that no longer has any relation to what people are saying, or reality - just what the other side thinks of them for being on that side.

You're right...



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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby General Paranoia » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:11 pm

I'm feeling rather cheerful after triggering Condom so easily 0;)
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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby Voice From Limbo » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:29 pm

Picador wrote:
Sad Cunt without a spreadsheet wrote:
Picador wrote:IP and copyright theft are OK if it's only the damn Rooskies doing it to themselves?

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=520295

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Tempest in a teacup.
The OP wanted knockoffs, but they aren’t.
It’s like the old Flames of War argument that you can’t copyright a Sherman tank.
The models are cheap and shitty quality. If that’s what you want, no problem.
I had to laugh at the poster who was appalled by the lack of grooves on the tank. He’s probably still clutching his pearls and calling for smelling salts. He’s probably addicted to smelling salts.


If you want grooves on yer tanks I recommend Butler's Printed Models ;)

Some may want the grooves, but not the pancake armor.
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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:35 pm

Derek H wrote:
Condottiero wrote:Cherry-picked narrative of 112 incidents, over almost a decade of direct involvement, does not count as many and Meyer - Tales of the American Empire - falls into the same body count/numbers issue that you whinged about.


However they're quite enough to demolish your claim that "it's just that as long as there US troops in the Republic of Vietnam, the VC and NVA didn't win."

Could you explain how the action at Fire Base Ripcord, the last major battle fought by American troops in Vietnam, can be considered a victory in any way other than body count?

Victors don't normally retreat leaving artillery pieces behind, but 101st Airborne Division did.

It doesn't demolish the claim at all...

The PAVN wasn't rolling into Saigon, so long as US troops were there.

The NVA didn't briefly occupy the area around Firebase Ripcord until the US forces withdrew and the former's resources were depleted to such a point, that had the latter been reinforced, Doi's forces wouldn't have been able to make it up the hill. It was a fighting withdrawal, but not the defeat claimed by Meyers.

Battle of Fire Support Base Ripcord

Losses of U.S. forces were so great that officers began asking for volunteers from other units to go to Ripcord and reinforce the firebase. Finally, the U.S. command realized that the position was not defensible, and the decision was made to withdraw. Fighting from four hilltops, surrounded, and outnumbered nearly ten to one, U.S. forces caused heavy losses on eight enemy battalions, before an aerial withdrawal under heavy mortar, anti-aircraft, and small arms fire. After the 101st Airborne withdrew from the firebase, B-52 bombers were sent in to carpet bomb the area. Harrison claimed that the PAVN losses at Ripcord, just as their losses of their major offensives of the Ia Drang in 1965 and Tet in 1968, crippled their offensive capability for two full years, resulting in the delaying of their Easter Offensive from 1971 to 1972.


According to Meyers:
Battle for Firebase Ripcord - American Generals made one final attempt to block the Ho Chi Minh trail, and found more NVA troops than expected. As the NVA assaulted remote Fire Support Base Ripcord, Generals decided to evacuate the base. Four American battalions from the 3rd Brigade, 101st Division conducted a fighting aerial evacuation that lasted 23 days, with the loss of at least 75 American KIA and 463 wounded. Dozens of helicopters were shot down or damaged, while several soldiers and all major items of equipment were left behind.


Benjamin Harrison's Hell On A Hill Top: America's Last Major Battle In Vietnam differs on the loss of equipment: pp. 127-128

Tom Marshall slightly differs from Meyers: Rescue From FSB Ripcord
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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby Bronshtein » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:36 pm

General Paranoia wrote:I'm feeling rather cheerful after triggering Condom so easily 0;)

You should feel cheap.

Also can someone explain wtf he is on about here?
I like how ochoin is blissfully ignorant of the failures of the British educational system and the parochial mentality of some of the inhabitants - society.

Maybe it's the poor education system but I haven't the foggiest what it is we Brits don't understand - maybe that's the point? :?
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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:37 pm

Derek H wrote:
Condottiero wrote:
BillSucksBoys wrote:
give it up Condi. both sides in this argument are atthe point where if one of them says 'vietnam is a country in south east asia' the other side will reply 'that's because of betrayal by the politicians at home' to which the first will reply 'baby killer'

It's an argument that no longer has any relation to what people are saying, or reality - just what the other side thinks of them for being on that side.

You're right...



Condi, arse on a plate and running away. How unusual.

Weak sauce! How usual of you.
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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby General Paranoia » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:44 pm

Bronshtein wrote:
General Paranoia wrote:I'm feeling rather cheerful after triggering Condom so easily 0;)

You should feel cheap.

It's those little victories, even if it doesn't win the war :wink:
Editor in Chief Bill wrote:It also 'thins the herd' so to speak, so that marginal and under-financed companies fall off the radar, leaving the better managed companies to dominate the news sphere.
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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby General Paranoia » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:46 pm

Bronshtein wrote:Maybe it's the poor education system but I haven't the foggiest what it is we Brits don't understand - maybe that's the point? :?

We just don't understand Condi, no one does. Life is so unfair! It's all our fault he spends his life locked in his bedroom.
Editor in Chief Bill wrote:It also 'thins the herd' so to speak, so that marginal and under-financed companies fall off the radar, leaving the better managed companies to dominate the news sphere.
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Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Postby Picador » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:48 pm

General Paranoia wrote:
Bronshtein wrote:
General Paranoia wrote:I'm feeling rather cheerful after triggering Condom so easily 0;)

You should feel cheap.

It's those little victories, even if it doesn't win the war :wink:


Not like you to be funny ;)
Stone Mountain's OK with IP theft, so Bill deleted his thread to protect him from looking a cunt.

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