Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

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Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by Australian Dawn » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:02 am

It's just amazing the quality of the TV science fiction we get these days.
Hopefully The Expanse will be popular enough to encourage more high quality TV programs based on Science Fiction literature.

I still like Dark Matter, even if it is more kitschy than the Expanse it's a far cry from the completely OTT stylised Killjoys or even old programs like Trek/Babylon 5, I just hope there's a big enough market to support the number and quality of shows we get at the moment.
We really are spoiled, the quality of show we get today would, I think, have had a loyal cult following among Sci-Fi fans in the old days.

Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by Hew Johns » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:38 am

I was watching Dark Matter, but it's really deteriorated into a very kitschy space-opera. The Expanse on the other hand is magnificent, especially on a big screen, just not enough of it.

Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by The Shade of William F Buckley » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:28 pm

Australian Dawn wrote:
Nuclear Abortion Technician wrote:Don't know if you have read "The Expanse" series of books by James Corey (a pen name for 2 blokes who worked as assistants for GRR Martin), but the TV series is pretty good. The books are very space opera instead of the "Hard Sci-Fi" some have alleged it to be, and the TV show has its problems, but character development does not seem to be one of them.

I just watched the first season of The Expanse and really enjoyed it. Very Noir detective story, great acting and an interesting plot. Thank you for recommending it. :beer:



Glad you liked it.
Season 2 remains pretty strong and season 3 is due in the first quarter of 2018, lets hope they don't fuck it up.
I think the series profits from having mostly unknown actors / actresses, as opposed to "Oh, they were in BSG, so they will be great in more Sci Fi". Although me and others who have read the books still think Alex is FAR too handsome (supposed to be a paunchy balding nondescript middle aged man), but the actor playing Amos has nailed the role...

If the series entices you into reading the books (Season 1 is bits of books 1 & 2 +/- various bits and pieces), do NOT bother beyond book 4, it turns into very tedious malarky...

Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by Australian Dawn » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:02 am

Nuclear Abortion Technician wrote:Don't know if you have read "The Expanse" series of books by James Corey (a pen name for 2 blokes who worked as assistants for GRR Martin), but the TV series is pretty good. The books are very space opera instead of the "Hard Sci-Fi" some have alleged it to be, and the TV show has its problems, but character development does not seem to be one of them.

I just watched the first season of The Expanse and really enjoyed it. Very Noir detective story, great acting and an interesting plot. Thank you for recommending it. :beer:

Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by Australian Dawn » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:03 am

I just watched Dark Matter seasons 1 and 2. I thought it was really good.
The acting and fight scenes were really impressive.
I especially loved the Android. She did a great job bringing a sympathetic machine character to life, voice, mannerisms, just excellent.
The story of the characters struggling to come to terms with their past is engrossing and really quite profound for an action packed Sci-Fi, series and I hope there is a lot more to come.

Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by Australian Dawn » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:47 pm

I just watched the first season of Killjoys, it was pretty good I thought. The female lead was a bit over sexualised and any potentially meaningful moments that could have highlighted some characterisation and acting were ignored in preference for cool one liners, sexiness and slow motion swagger, with distracting music blaring over her best scenes, but the stories were interesting, full of intrigue and world building, and while it's not exactly deep I thought it was a fun watch.
I just wish it had aliens. :(

Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by Australian Dawn » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:15 am

It sounds like an interesting show. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. :beer:

Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by Nuclear Abortion Technician » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:48 am

Australian Dawn wrote:Thanks. :)

I do prefer evil aliens to corporate CEOs though. :(


"The Expanse" has nasty corporations, A "Cold War" between Earth and the Martian Republic and also an alien presence which is poorly understood by all involved.

Oh, and an underclass of "Belters" working the outer planets and asteroids - Shame they are all made to look like rave hippies :(

Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by Australian Dawn » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:35 am

Thanks. :)

I do prefer evil aliens to corporate CEOs though. :(

Re: Are Dark Matter and/or Killjoys any good?

Post by andrewbeasley » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:58 pm

Australian Dawn wrote:
andrewbeasley wrote:
Australian Dawn wrote:Could someone tell me if there are any aliens in these shows, or just humans?


I cannot remember 'anything' other than humanoids in Dark Matter - even then I think they are classic human and no prosthetics unless the androids face is softened slightly.

That seems a bit cheap doesn't it? :? Not much sense of wonder. :(

Thanks for the info. :beer:


The whole program is the crew vs corporate factions. Almost reminds me of corporate warfare come Samurai vs Ronin where the SciFi aspect adds little but a basic setting.

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