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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:29 am

Ssanemax wrote:
Il Segaiolo Pedantesco wrote:Not one of the political parties on this has had a significant impact in the long term in the modern era.


Lol, you do remember the entire History of the USA is in the Modern Era and the LATE modern era too?

:roll:
Ssanemax wrote:The Know Nothings and parties like that never won elections - Nigel Farrage has never won anything, ever - but that didn't stop him fucking us up.

He was elected to the European Parliament...

Unlike other countries, third parties have never amounted to anything in these United States.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Ssanemax » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:11 pm

Il Segaiolo Pedantesco wrote:Not one of the political parties on this has had a significant impact in the long term in the modern era.


Lol, you do remember the entire History of the USA is in the Modern Era and the LATE modern era too?

The Know Nothings and parties like that never won elections - Nigel Farrage has never won anything, ever - but that didn't stop him fucking us up.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Il Segaiolo Pedantesco » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:36 pm

Ssanemax wrote:
Altius wrote:I’m so sorry to hear about your loss, Kyoto. I can’t imagine the pain you must feel.

I, for one, fervently hope Trump’s Patriot Party becomes a reality. It’ll be a distillation of the dumbest and most obnoxious elements of society led by an asymmetric collection of syphilitic grifters, ex-Nazis and wack-ass conspiracy theorists. Dear Leader will likely direct them from a prison cell, or from a compound in a country that lacks an extradition treaty with the US. Think of the positions they’ll take on issues. Imagine how their conventions will look. The spectacle of it all. My god, the fuckin’ grandeur.

Of course, they’ll never win a national-level election. It’ll just split the Republican Party in two, and the Republicans won’t win either for at least a generation. Serves the fuckers right for cultivating these pariahs in the first place.


It's a nice thought...... but do you remember how well he got on with Nigel Farrage?

Farrage used a method proposed by some whack-job in the netherlands IIRC - the plan is you create a party whose issues resonate with a section of a main Party's voters so strongly that the main party promptly shits itself at the prospect of all the narrow contests it's going to lose, and starts playing to the new party's gallery. That's how we got a Party committed to the European Union, mostly, leading us down the path to Brexit.

worse, the obvious single issue for the USA is the same as the one Farrage used, and Trump has already normalised being allowed to be a racist again, which was always Farrage's one problem here - Trump might not even have to use 'Dog Whistles' - he can just come out and say it.

Differing political systems won't produce the same result...

Not one of the political parties on this list has had a significant impact in the long term in the modern era. The closest was Ross Perot's Reform Party with 8.4% in 1996 and eventually collapsed in on itself - probably due to Agent Orange's participation, like with the United States Football League.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Ssanemax » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:31 pm

Altius wrote:I’m so sorry to hear about your loss, Kyoto. I can’t imagine the pain you must feel.

I, for one, fervently hope Trump’s Patriot Party becomes a reality. It’ll be a distillation of the dumbest and most obnoxious elements of society led by an asymmetric collection of syphilitic grifters, ex-Nazis and wack-ass conspiracy theorists. Dear Leader will likely direct them from a prison cell, or from a compound in a country that lacks an extradition treaty with the US. Think of the positions they’ll take on issues. Imagine how their conventions will look. The spectacle of it all. My god, the fuckin’ grandeur.

Of course, they’ll never win a national-level election. It’ll just split the Republican Party in two, and the Republicans won’t win either for at least a generation. Serves the fuckers right for cultivating these pariahs in the first place.


It's a nice thought...... but do you remember how well he got on with Nigel Farrage?

Farrage used a method proposed by some whack-job in the netherlands IIRC - the plan is you create a party whose issues resonate with a section of a main Party's voters so strongly that the main party promptly shits itself at the prospect of all the narrow contests it's going to lose, and starts playing to the new party's gallery. That's how we got a Party committed to the European Union, mostly, leading us down the path to Brexit.

worse, the obvious single issue for the USA is the same as the one Farrage used, and Trump has already normalised being allowed to be a racist again, which was always Farrage's one problem here - Trump might not even have to use 'Dog Whistles' - he can just come out and say it.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Altius » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:13 pm

I’m so sorry to hear about your loss, Kyoto. I can’t imagine the pain you must feel.

I, for one, fervently hope Trump’s Patriot Party becomes a reality. It’ll be a distillation of the dumbest and most obnoxious elements of society led by an asymmetric collection of syphilitic grifters, ex-Nazis and wack-ass conspiracy theorists. Dear Leader will likely direct them from a prison cell, or from a compound in a country that lacks an extradition treaty with the US. Think of the positions they’ll take on issues. Imagine how their conventions will look. The spectacle of it all. My god, the fuckin’ grandeur.

Of course, they’ll never win a national-level election. It’ll just split the Republican Party in two, and the Republicans won’t win either for at least a generation. Serves the fuckers right for cultivating these pariahs in the first place.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Voice From Limbo » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:46 pm

Hey, remember that "team of medical experts" from last year? What do you know?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.co ... with%3famp

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Ssanemax » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:25 am

I see that Donald wishes to start his own party. I imagine there will be people that will join - but I suspect he may find the USA too difficult a place to work, and take the members somwewhere the party can operate safely - say, Guyana.....

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Ssanemax » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:19 am

Listening to Biden's speech, - which I thought was really rather good - I wondered how many younger viewers were perplexed and needed a parent to explain that traditionally, the President of the United States is not actually a raging Narcissist and compulsive liar, or at least has enough dignity to pretend they are not, and that this is what normality is.


countdown to first Media complaint that Biden is 'boring' and hankering after the exciting times of woss'name........3...2.....

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Ssanemax » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:15 am

McKinstry wrote:My deepest sympathies Kyote.


and mine, KB I am very sorry.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by McKinstry » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:42 am

My deepest sympathies Kyote.

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