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Post by Khusrau » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:05 am

I think what Bronny was saying was what we thought we knew might not actually have been correct. I reckon though if you were manufacturing a castle model you might want to stick with the majority case.

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Post by Bronshtein » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:47 am

Yes, the Henry Ford of restoration architecture - any style as long as it's Gothic :D

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Post by Picador » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:42 am

Bronshtein wrote:Viollet le Duc certainly liked the idea and said it was so, but although a good architect he wasn't always so great as a historian.



He was a bit obsessed with High Gothic...

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Post by Bronshtein » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:30 am

Except it's not true.
Is there any mediaeval evidence for the theory?
No.
It seems to be simply a nice piece of speculation.
Viollet le Duc certainly liked the idea and said it was so, but although a good architect he wasn't always so great as a historian.
Antiquarian speculation does not make it true.
I'm reluctant to go the whole hog and say it was about safety or about status or types of entrance as castle function changed but there is absolutely no definitive evidence why certain castle staircases turned certain ways.

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by frotherPest » Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:52 pm

Even stone forts built in North America during the 18th and 19th centuries have clockwise spiral staircases.

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Post by Hermit » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:48 pm

Well, you probably all know that castles were built with clockwise staircases so they could be defended better. That particular Epix Haven model would need left-handed troops.

A bunch of halflings with shortswords could over-run that.

EDIT: Here's a decent link which explains it: https://www.simplemost.com/clever-reaso ... clockwise/

It's funny what you remember from school trips :)

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Khusrau » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:32 pm

83 examples sounds a lot, till you realise they are including ecclesiastical buildings, internal towers for traffic flow etc. Ah well. It's still a nice theory, and I certainly can't recall a counterclockwise stair in any castle I have visited, and that's quite a few.

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Picador » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:12 pm

Another ignorant Yank that can't do joined up thinking.

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=535309

'monsieur'?
'mein Herr'?

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Bronshtein » Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:52 pm

I blame the 19th century romanticising imagination.
The clockwise newel staircase sounds great until you actually walk around a hundred or so of the bloody things.

http://www.castlestudiesgroup.org.uk/CS ... stairs.pdf


(and you find that there are many that swing the other way)

Re: The Sad Cunts with No Life Thread

Post by Picador » Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:28 pm

Derek H wrote:
Khusrau wrote:And am I the only pedantic bastard who things this tower staircase spirals the wrong way?

http://theminiaturespage.com/showcase/?id=39098


I blame the Kerrs.


I blame the Armstrongs.

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