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Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Wrong again JJ » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:14 am

Guest wrote:
kyotebue2 wrote:Iran told the world it would take a British Ship to use as a bargaining chip to have its ship released. The Horror!!!


There’s a difference. Brit seizure was due to Iran violations of international sanctions. Four seizures, not all UK, were all illegally seized in international waters.



The EU sanctions only apply to EU members.

"EU restrictive measures apply in situations where links exist with the European Union (“EU”). The application of the Regulation is defined in Article 35 of the Regulation. It applies:

(a) within the territory of the Union, including its airspace;
(b) on board any aircraft or any vessel under the jurisdiction of a Member State;
(c) to any person inside or outside the territory of the Union who is a national of a Member State;
(d) to any legal person, entity or body which is incorporated or constituted under the law of a Member State;
(e) to any legal person, entity or body in respect of any business done in whole or in part within the Union."

https://ec.europa.eu/fpi/sites/fpi/file ... ean_en.pdf

the Foreign Office reasoned that it had a legal and moral duty to impound any ship that was heading to Syria in breach of EU sanctions

John Bolton welcomed the seizure of the ship. “Excellent news: UK has detained the supertanker Grace I laden with Iranian oil bound for Syria in violation of EU sanctions,

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... -sanctions

A second tanker, the Mesdar, which is Liberian-flagged but British operated, also made a sudden diversion from its course towards the Saudi port of Ras Tanura on Friday, and tracking data showed it moving northwards towards the Iranian coast before apparently turning off its tracking signal

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by kyotebue2 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:01 am

Trump calls racist followers Incredible Patriots. Everyone else calls them racist assholes.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by kyotebue2 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:37 pm

The Horror!!!!

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Guest » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:24 pm

kyotebue2 wrote:Iran told the world it would take a British Ship to use as a bargaining chip to have its ship released. The Horror!!!


There’s a difference. Brit seizure was due to Iran violations of international sanctions. Four seizures, not all UK, were all illegally seized in international waters.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by kyotebue2 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:39 pm

Iran told the world it would take a British Ship to use as a bargaining chip to have its ship released. The Horror!!!

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Voice From Limbo » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:36 pm

Or the wags are wogging.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Guest » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:02 pm

Guest wrote:I think they are trying to provoke a reaction for their own reasons, not because the vessel was in Iranian as opposed to international waters.

Wogs are “wagging the dog”, by Jove!

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Guest » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:41 pm

I think they are trying to provoke a reaction for their own reasons, not because the vessel was in Iranian as opposed to international waters.

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Guest » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:30 pm

Guest wrote:Iran just pushed the envelope further by seizure of a UK tanker.

Time to teach the uppity wogs a bloody lesson, eh wot?

Re: State of the Union - pre/post election & whatever...

Post by Guest » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:18 pm

Iran just pushed the envelope further by seizure of a UK tanker.

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